Comments on: What is Wrong With The Right? http://burningprairie.com/posts/what-is-wrong-with-the-right/ Cleaning up my house, one mess at a time. Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:43:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Paul Lamb http://burningprairie.com/posts/what-is-wrong-with-the-right/#comment-832 Paul Lamb Sun, 05 Oct 2008 16:33:29 +0000 http://burningprairie.com/posts/what-is-wrong-with-the-right/#comment-832 It is odd to me that so many on the very hard right (and probably something similar is true on the very hard left) don't see "liberalism" as a merely a DIFFERENT approach to the ills of the nation but as absolute evil. They can't acknowledge that there is another idea but that any idea but their own is impossible. This is coming from a man who was once an economic conservative (we've seen how well those policies worked). I have changed my politics over the years, having tried one way and seeing it be insufficient. I was open to considering a new way. So many people can't make this leap. John McCain is the man who can lead us into the 20th Century! It is odd to me that so many on the very hard right (and probably something similar is true on the very hard left) don’t see “liberalism” as a merely a DIFFERENT approach to the ills of the nation but as absolute evil. They can’t acknowledge that there is another idea but that any idea but their own is impossible. This is coming from a man who was once an economic conservative (we’ve seen how well those policies worked). I have changed my politics over the years, having tried one way and seeing it be insufficient. I was open to considering a new way. So many people can’t make this leap.

John McCain is the man who can lead us into the 20th Century!

]]> By: Woody http://burningprairie.com/posts/what-is-wrong-with-the-right/#comment-825 Woody Sun, 05 Oct 2008 11:41:24 +0000 http://burningprairie.com/posts/what-is-wrong-with-the-right/#comment-825 A wonderful post. A wonderful post.

]]> By: Jason http://burningprairie.com/posts/what-is-wrong-with-the-right/#comment-754 Jason Thu, 02 Oct 2008 04:32:35 +0000 http://burningprairie.com/posts/what-is-wrong-with-the-right/#comment-754 Well, adhering to a consistent world view--especially in trying circumstances--is laudable. You know, "putting your money where your mouth is." It is not, by default, saintly (though it is a prereq). As to why she got amniocentesis (I had to just cut-and-paste that): that is a good question. I put it to my wife, the hospital social worker, who speculates that it may simply have been standard operating procedure for someone her age. I would be interested in hearing a reporter ask the question. She might have to get back later with the answer, but we could hold her to it. Well, adhering to a consistent world view–especially in trying circumstances–is laudable. You know, “putting your money where your mouth is.” It is not, by default, saintly (though it is a prereq). As to why she got amniocentesis (I had to just cut-and-paste that): that is a good question. I put it to my wife, the hospital social worker, who speculates that it may simply have been standard operating procedure for someone her age. I would be interested in hearing a reporter ask the question. She might have to get back later with the answer, but we could hold her to it.

]]> By: pidomon http://burningprairie.com/posts/what-is-wrong-with-the-right/#comment-752 pidomon Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:35:14 +0000 http://burningprairie.com/posts/what-is-wrong-with-the-right/#comment-752 BP I now forgive you for OSU beating the tar out of TCU because of this post. <i>"That decision didn’t make me a saint. That decision made me a mom</i> Just like my Mom and my sisters who are mom's. Thank you for this post BP
I now forgive you for OSU beating the tar out of TCU because of this post.

“That decision didn’t make me a saint. That decision made me a mom

Just like my Mom and my sisters who are mom’s.

Thank you for this post

]]> By: Burning Prairie http://burningprairie.com/posts/what-is-wrong-with-the-right/#comment-721 Burning Prairie Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:48:16 +0000 http://burningprairie.com/posts/what-is-wrong-with-the-right/#comment-721 Jason-I get what you're saying here, but for women like Sarah Palin, for whom termination is not an option under any circumstances, continuing with such a pregnancy is not unusual, exceptional or unexpected. She was simply adhering to her worldview. So my only question is: if she would have the child no matter what, why take the risk of amniocentesis? Jason-I get what you’re saying here, but for women like Sarah Palin, for whom termination is not an option under any circumstances, continuing with such a pregnancy is not unusual, exceptional or unexpected. She was simply adhering to her worldview. So my only question is: if she would have the child no matter what, why take the risk of amniocentesis?

]]> By: Jason http://burningprairie.com/posts/what-is-wrong-with-the-right/#comment-720 Jason Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:05:37 +0000 http://burningprairie.com/posts/what-is-wrong-with-the-right/#comment-720 No, Sarah is not a saint because she kept her child, however, the reason that people think it is exceptional is because nowadays, it is. The vast majority of people who learn during the pregnancy that the child has Downs, aborts the child. http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/65500197/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0 My reading comprehension is good, so I know that is not really the center of your argument, but it is an important fact. Gov. Palin and (hypothetically) you are in the exceptional 10% of those who would make that decision. No, Sarah is not a saint because she kept her child, however, the reason that people think it is exceptional is because nowadays, it is. The vast majority of people who learn during the pregnancy that the child has Downs, aborts the child.

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/65500197/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0

My reading comprehension is good, so I know that is not really the center of your argument, but it is an important fact. Gov. Palin and (hypothetically) you are in the exceptional 10% of those who would make that decision.

]]> By: Karl G. Siewert http://burningprairie.com/posts/what-is-wrong-with-the-right/#comment-719 Karl G. Siewert Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:01:19 +0000 http://burningprairie.com/posts/what-is-wrong-with-the-right/#comment-719 I love this post. Your succinct description of your progressive beliefs match mine perfectly. I've linked you on Facebook and I'm hoping that many, many people read this. Thank you for writing it! I love this post. Your succinct description of your progressive beliefs match mine perfectly.

I’ve linked you on Facebook and I’m hoping that many, many people read this. Thank you for writing it!

]]> By: ptelea http://burningprairie.com/posts/what-is-wrong-with-the-right/#comment-717 ptelea Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:02:25 +0000 http://burningprairie.com/posts/what-is-wrong-with-the-right/#comment-717 Very well spoken - I find myself frequently defending these charges against the Democratic Party. I run into quite a few conservatives who swear that it is the Dems who are ALWAYS vilifying them. Why do you think that Palin hid this pregnancy for long? That seems out of character for her? Very well spoken - I find myself frequently defending these charges against the Democratic Party. I run into quite a few conservatives who swear that it is the Dems who are ALWAYS vilifying them.

Why do you think that Palin hid this pregnancy for long? That seems out of character for her?

]]> By: Burning Prairie http://burningprairie.com/posts/what-is-wrong-with-the-right/#comment-706 Burning Prairie Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:48:00 +0000 http://burningprairie.com/posts/what-is-wrong-with-the-right/#comment-706 Dear Bob, Reading comprehension is your friend. Please read the first sentence of this paragraph again. "So there, I’ve just schlaflied all Republicans. I have presented my personal beliefs as the beliefs of all Democrats, painting those high-minded ideals as the polar opposite of what all Republicans believe, regardless. I have vilified all Republicans, assuming that they all are greedy, selfish, bigoted, ignorant, fearful, hate-filled warmongers. I know a lot of folks who vote republican because they mistakenly believe the lies put forth by people like Schlafly and others." Phyllis Schlafly painted every single Democrat as liable to abort a pregnancy because of Downs. Even though others tried to prove differently to her, she steadfastly maintained her small-minded bias. So I showed the effect of such assertions by "schlaflying" Republicans. Since I now have no confidence that others will practice reading comprehension, I will go make my point a little clearer. Dear Bob,

Reading comprehension is your friend. Please read the first sentence of this paragraph again.

“So there, I’ve just schlaflied all Republicans. I have presented my personal beliefs as the beliefs of all Democrats, painting those high-minded ideals as the polar opposite of what all Republicans believe, regardless. I have vilified all Republicans, assuming that they all are greedy, selfish, bigoted, ignorant, fearful, hate-filled warmongers. I know a lot of folks who vote republican because they mistakenly believe the lies put forth by people like Schlafly and others.”

Phyllis Schlafly painted every single Democrat as liable to abort a pregnancy because of Downs. Even though others tried to prove differently to her, she steadfastly maintained her small-minded bias. So I showed the effect of such assertions by “schlaflying” Republicans. Since I now have no confidence that others will practice reading comprehension, I will go make my point a little clearer.

]]> By: Bob http://burningprairie.com/posts/what-is-wrong-with-the-right/#comment-703 Bob Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:41:27 +0000 http://burningprairie.com/posts/what-is-wrong-with-the-right/#comment-703 Let me say this first: I would certainly never consider myself a Democrat, not necessarily a republican either, but if I had to choose I would go with the GOP. Most importantly, I consider myself strongly pro-choice. Now, this is the kind of article that really ticks me off. Not because of all the abortion stuff, but because you felt the need to put in the one paragraph proudly exclaiming that all republicans are evil. (The part that insinuates republicans discriminate against all types of classes, doesn't care about education, the environment, children after birth, family value, etc) I just have to ask: why did you feel the need to put this in there? This kind of thing is what turns people like me away - the placing of people into classes like this. Now, I can understand that you might be trying to make a point that there are people of other parties who do the same thing, but that doesn't make me feel any less insulted from reading that paragraph. Just a suggestion to stick to what you are debating, rather than turning every issue into us vs them. Let me say this first: I would certainly never consider myself a Democrat, not necessarily a republican either, but if I had to choose I would go with the GOP. Most importantly, I consider myself strongly pro-choice.

Now, this is the kind of article that really ticks me off. Not because of all the abortion stuff, but because you felt the need to put in the one paragraph proudly exclaiming that all republicans are evil. (The part that insinuates republicans discriminate against all types of classes, doesn’t care about education, the environment, children after birth, family value, etc)

I just have to ask: why did you feel the need to put this in there? This kind of thing is what turns people like me away - the placing of people into classes like this. Now, I can understand that you might be trying to make a point that there are people of other parties who do the same thing, but that doesn’t make me feel any less insulted from reading that paragraph.

Just a suggestion to stick to what you are debating, rather than turning every issue into us vs them.

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